特朗普在《60分钟》专访中谈乌克兰：已非常接近达成协议，乌克兰版图将「略有不同」
华盛顿 — 美国总统特朗普在哥伦比亚广播公司《60分钟》11月8日晚播出的专访中谈到俄乌战争时表示，和平的最大障碍是乌克兰总统泽连斯基与俄罗斯总统普京之间的仇恨；他称美方「已经非常接近达成协议」，并说这场战争将会结束、而且很快，唯一的理由就是因为他。
主持人 Ross Douthat 问他更信任普京还是泽连斯基，特朗普说他宁愿不说，但他与两人的关系都处得来。被问到协议是否会以一个自由独立的乌克兰收场时，特朗普说，他相信会达成协议、事情会发生，而乌克兰最终的版图将「略有不同」。他没有说明他所指的领土变化具体是什么。
特朗普还否认自己放宽了对俄罗斯的柴油制裁，称他只是让俄罗斯的柴油得以供应世界市场，并称没有人比他对俄罗斯更强硬。这期专访于11月6日在白宫录制，是共和党在11月3日中期选举中失利后特朗普首次接受电视专访。
这次表态正值俄、乌、美三方代表团定于11月10日至11日在阿布扎比举行会谈之前，会谈将讨论战后安全安排与降级措施，美方由维特科夫与库什纳参加。乌克兰方面一直主张先立即停火，并称领土问题只能由泽连斯基与普京直接会谈决定。
关联：特朗普在《60分钟》专访中承认驱逐政策可能太严厉：称伤害了自己、愿与民主党谈移民协议
关联：法国外长巴罗：欧洲将参加阿布扎比俄乌会谈 俄方称欧洲人不该上谈判桌
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Trump on Ukraine in 60 Minutes Interview: 'Very Close' to a Deal, and Ukraine Will End Up With a 'Little Bit Different Shape'
WASHINGTON — In his interview on CBS's 60 Minutes, broadcast on the evening of November 8, President Donald Trump said the biggest obstacle to peace in Ukraine was the hatred between Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy and Russian President Vladimir Putin. He said the United States was 'very close to making a deal,' and that the war would end, and end soon, and that the only reason it would end was because of him.
Asked by interviewer Ross Douthat whether he trusted Putin or Zelenskyy more, Trump said he would rather not say, but that he got along with both. Asked whether a deal would leave a free and independent Ukraine, Trump said he believed a deal would be reached and that Ukraine would end up with a 'little bit different shape.' He did not say what territorial changes he had in mind.
Trump also denied that he had lifted diesel sanctions on Russia, saying he had only made it possible for Russian diesel to reach the world market, and said nobody had been tougher on Russia than he had. The interview was recorded at the White House on November 6 and was Trump's first television interview since the Republican Party's losses in the November 3 midterm elections.
The remarks came ahead of trilateral talks among Russian, Ukrainian and U.S. delegations scheduled for November 10-11 in Abu Dhabi, where post-war security arrangements and de-escalation steps are to be discussed, with Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner attending for the United States. Ukraine has called for an immediate ceasefire first and says territorial questions can be settled only in direct talks between Zelenskyy and Putin.
(Source: CBS)
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