特朗普在《60分钟》专访中承认驱逐政策可能太严厉：称伤害了自己、愿与民主党谈移民协议

华盛顿 — 美国总统特朗普在哥伦比亚广播公司（CBS）《60分钟》11月8日（周日）晚播出的专访中承认，他的大规模驱逐政策「可能太严厉」，并说这项政策在中期选举中伤害了共和党、也伤害了他本人；他同时表示，愿意与刚刚夺回国会参众两院多数的民主党就移民问题达成协议。这是共和党在11月3日中期选举中历史性失利后特朗普首次接受电视专访；专访于11月6日（周五）在白宫录制，由《60分钟》记者罗斯·杜萨特（Ross Douthat）提问。

被问到驱逐政策是否走得太远时，特朗普说：「太严厉了。我想，可能太严厉了，是的。」他说，自己在关闭边境上得「A+」、把「坏人」赶出去也得高分，「但我受伤害，是因为我们也带走了有好工作的人，他们犯的唯一一条法，就是非法入境」。他举例说，一名在酒店做了多年服务员、清洁工的女性，突然被带走出境，「这很难，这是一件难的事」。

被问到想与民主党多数合作做成哪件事时，特朗普说：「我很想在移民上做点事。」他称，与民主党就移民达成协议是「一件真正做得成的事」。多家美国媒体的专访看点综述指出，这是特朗普对其2024年竞选核心议题罕见的公开松口；但就在专访录制当天，他刚任命大规模驱逐政策的设计者斯蒂芬·米勒自11月9日起接任白宫幕僚长，移民执法是否随之调整尚不清楚。

专访还问到他的财富。《福布斯》估算，特朗普的净资产约70亿美元，较2024年再次当选以来增加约27亿美元；他的财务披露显示加密货币收入约14亿美元。被追问身家暴涨时，特朗普先说「大家的都涨了」，随后表示：「我几乎不花时间在我的净资产上。我不在意。我有很多钱，远比我以为会有的多。我想是涨了，我甚至不知道。」对特朗普家族与子辈共同持有的加密货币公司 World Liberty Financial 有与阿联酋有关联的投资方在其就职前购入近半股份一事，他说自己对家族的投资一无所知，并称钱由他的一个儿子打理、大多交给华尔街最大的公司投资。

总结败选原因时，特朗普主要归咎于对伊朗的战争与共和党的「信息传达不到位」，没有把责任归于自己。GSM 此前报道过这期专访的预告片段：特朗普称还会再做几处人事调整、并力挺战争部长赫格塞思；整期节目播出后，移民与财富两段成为各家媒体看点综述的首要内容。

关联：【视频】跟进：特朗普在《60分钟》专访中称还会再做几处人事调整，力挺战争部长赫格塞思

（来源：哥伦比亚广播公司）

Trump Tells '60 Minutes' His Deportation Policy 'Might Be Too Tough,' Says It Hurt Him and He Is Open to an Immigration Deal With Democrats

WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump, in a '60 Minutes' interview broadcast Sunday evening, November 8, on CBS, conceded that his mass deportation policy 'might be too tough' and said it hurt Republicans, and him personally, in the midterm elections; he also said he would like to reach an immigration deal with the Democrats who have just won back majorities in both chambers of Congress. It was Trump's first television sit-down since Republicans' historic midterm losses on November 3; the interview was recorded at the White House on Friday, November 6, with '60 Minutes' correspondent Ross Douthat.

Asked whether his deportation policy had gone too far, Trump said: 'Too tough. I think it might be too tough, yeah.' He said he gets an 'A+' for closing the border and very high marks for removing 'the bad ones,' 'but I get hurt because we also took people that had good jobs, that created one violation, or breaking of the law, and that was that they came into the country illegally.' He cited a woman who had worked for years at a hotel as a maid, cleaner or waitress being suddenly taken out of the country: 'It's tough. It's a tough thing.'

Asked what he would like to work on with a Democratic majority, Trump said: 'I'd love to do something on immigration,' calling a deal with Democrats 'something that's actually doable.' U.S. media takeaways from the interview described the remarks as a striking acknowledgment on the issue at the center of his 2024 campaign; on the same day the interview was recorded, however, Trump named Stephen Miller, the architect of the mass deportation policy, as White House chief of staff effective November 9, and it remains unclear whether enforcement will change.

The interview also pressed Trump on his wealth. Forbes estimates his net worth at about $7 billion, up about $2.7 billion since he was elected again in 2024, and his financial disclosures show about $1.4 billion in cryptocurrency earnings. Asked about the increase, Trump first said, 'So did everyone's,' then added: 'I devote almost no time to my net worth. I don't care. I have a lot of money, and far more than I ever thought I'd have. And I guess it's gone up. I don't even know.' On World Liberty Financial, the cryptocurrency company co-owned by his family and sons, in which an investment firm tied to the United Arab Emirates acquired nearly half ahead of his inauguration, he said he knew nothing about his family's investments, adding that one of his sons manages his money and that most of it is given to the biggest firms on Wall Street to invest.

Assessing the election losses, Trump mainly blamed the war with Iran and Republicans' messaging, taking no personal blame. GSM previously reported the interview's preview excerpts, in which Trump said he might make a few more personnel changes and backed Secretary of War Pete Hegseth; once the full programme aired, the immigration and wealth exchanges topped U.S. media takeaways.

Related: Follow-up: Trump Says in '60 Minutes' Interview He May Make a Few More Personnel Changes, Backs Secretary of War Hegseth

(Source: CBS)

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图片来源：图：特朗普与国家安全团队在白宫战情室开会（白宫官方照片，资料图）。公共领域，经 Wikimedia Commons，本站档案图复用。 / Photo: President Trump and his national security team meet in the Situation Room of the White House (White House photo, file photo). Public domain, via Wikimedia Commons; GSM archive reuse.

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