特朗普在史密斯访谈中谈假想对决：若与奥巴马竞选总统，「我会轻松击败他」
美国总统特朗普在11月12日发布的 Stephen A. Smith 访谈中，被问到一个假想问题：假如他和前总统奥巴马都能再选、两人在总统选举中对决会如何。特朗普回答说，他认为自己会轻松击败奥巴马，并称奥巴马被高估了。
这场约48分钟的访谈在白宫录制。Smith 提出假想后，特朗普先说自己拿到的票数远比奥巴马多、在各大州也保持纪录，并点名他在德克萨斯州与佛罗里达州的得票是两州史上最高。Smith 追问他是否在说自己能击败奥巴马，特朗普答道：「是的，我想我会轻松击败他。我认为他被严重高估了。」他还说，他不认为奥巴马是位好总统，认为奥巴马让社会更撕裂，而他自称是团结美国社会、让美国如此成功的人。
需要说明的是，这场对决纯属假想。美国宪法第二十二修正案规定，任何人当选总统不得超过两次，特朗普与奥巴马都已经当选过两次，依法都不能再参选总统。两人也从未在同一场选举中对决过：按联邦选举委员会的记录，特朗普在2024年大选中获得约7,730万张普选票，奥巴马在2008年获得约6,950万张、2012年获得约6,590万张，不同年份、不同对手的票数高低，不能直接推出两人对决的结果。奥巴马本人没有公开回应这番话。
同一场访谈中，特朗普还谈到中期选举结果，以及沙特阿拉伯等海湾五国请求他暂缓对伊朗发动大规模打击，GSM 已分别成稿。
关联：【视频】特朗普接受 Stephen A. Smith 访谈谈中期选举：称自己不在选票上、拒绝为共和党败选担责
关联：特朗普称沙特等五国请求暂缓对伊朗大规模打击：没有这些请求他本会下令开打
Trump on a Hypothetical Matchup With Obama: "I Think I'd Beat Him Easily"
In an interview with Stephen A. Smith released on November 12, President Trump was asked a hypothetical question: if he and former President Barack Obama could both run again and faced each other in a presidential election, what would happen. Trump answered that he thought he would beat Obama easily, and called Obama highly overrated.
The roughly 48-minute interview was recorded at the White House. After Smith floated the scenario, Trump first said he had received many more votes than Obama and held the records in the big states, pointing to his all-time vote records in Texas and Florida. Pressed on whether he was saying he would beat Obama, Trump replied: "Yeah, I think I'd beat him easily. I think he's highly overrated." He added that he did not think Obama was a good president, called him a divider, and described himself as someone who unites American society and made America successful.
The matchup is purely hypothetical. The 22nd Amendment bars anyone from being elected president more than twice, and both Trump and Obama have been elected twice, so neither could legally run. The two men have also never faced each other in an election: Federal Election Commission records show Trump won about 77.3 million popular votes in 2024, while Obama won about 69.5 million in 2008 and about 65.9 million in 2012, and vote totals from different years against different opponents cannot establish what a head-to-head race would produce. Obama has not publicly responded.
In the same interview, Trump also discussed the midterm election results and requests from five Gulf states that he hold off on a large-scale strike against Iran, both covered separately by GSM.
Related: Trump, Interviewed by Stephen A. Smith, Discusses the Midterms
Related: Trump Says Five Gulf States Asked Him to Hold Off on a Major Strike Against Iran
来源：Stephen A. Smith 访谈节目
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