跟进：巴西决选首场电视辩论交锋激烈 卢拉与Flavio Bolsonaro互指涉案 安全与经济成焦点

圣保罗——巴西总统决选首场电视辩论 10 月 18 日晚在圣保罗的 Band 电视台演播室举行，现任总统卢拉与参议员 Flavio Bolsonaro 正面交锋，议题集中在治安、双方家族涉及的调查与经济政策。据巴西媒体报道，辩论于当地时间当晚 8 时开始、约两小时结束；决选投票定于 10 月 25 日举行。首轮投票中，Flavio Bolsonaro 得票率约 47%，卢拉约 45%，约 3,300 万首轮未投票的选民成为双方争夺对象。

治安问题上，Flavio Bolsonaro 承诺自明年 1 月起「向毒品恐怖主义宣战」，主张把 PCC、Comando Vermelho 等犯罪组织及民兵组织列为「毒品恐怖组织」以便强力执法。卢拉回应称，其政府正在打击有组织犯罪、任内刑期已经提高。

双方互相追问对方阵营涉及的调查。Flavio Bolsonaro 追问卢拉之子 Fábio Luís 与说客 Roberta Luchsinger 涉及的社会保障（INSS）养老金违规扣款调查；卢拉回应称「Roberta 一事是联邦警察的事」，并称其政府会调查任何人、包括自己的儿子。卢拉反问一笔 1.34 亿雷亚尔资金的去向，称其与前银行家 Daniel Vorcaro（Banco Master 案）相关、涉资助一部关于 Jair Bolsonaro 的电影，并称资金流向与 Eduardo Bolsonaro 关联的律师控制的基金有关。Flavio Bolsonaro 未在辩论中正面说明该笔资金去向。上述内容均为双方在辩论中的指控与回应，未经司法机关裁定。

人身交锋方面，Flavio Bolsonaro 以卢拉曾被定罪（后被推翻）一事发问；卢拉称 Flavio Bolsonaro 为「miliciano（民兵分子）」，并称决选后对方将失去参议员豁免权、相关调查会推进；Flavio Bolsonaro 回应称「你不用怕我」。经济议题上，卢拉讥讽对方靠拢阿根廷总统米莱的紧缩政策，双方另就囚犯投票权、产假等社会权利记录与医保问题交锋。（GSM 据巴西媒体报道）

Follow-Up: Lula and Flavio Bolsonaro Clash Over Crime, Probes and the Economy in First Runoff TV Debate

SAO PAULO — Brazil's first presidential runoff television debate was held on the evening of October 18 at the Band studios in Sao Paulo, pitting President Lula against Senator Flavio Bolsonaro over security, investigations touching both camps and economic policy. According to Brazilian media reports, the debate began at 8 p.m. local time and ran about two hours; the runoff vote is set for October 25. In the first round, Flavio Bolsonaro took about 47% and Lula about 45%, leaving roughly 33 million first-round non-voters as the prize both campaigns are courting.

On crime, Flavio Bolsonaro pledged to “declare war on narco-terrorism” from next January, proposing that gangs such as PCC and Comando Vermelho, along with militias, be designated “narco-terrorist organizations” to enable tougher enforcement. Lula replied that his government is fighting organized crime and that sentences have been increased on his watch.

Each man pressed the other over investigations. Flavio Bolsonaro raised the INSS pension-deduction probe involving Lula's son Fabio Luis and lobbyist Roberta Luchsinger; Lula said “Roberta is a matter for the Federal Police” and that his government would investigate anyone, including his own son. Lula in turn demanded an accounting for 134 million reais he linked to former banker Daniel Vorcaro of the Banco Master case, alleging the money helped fund a film about Jair Bolsonaro and flowed to a fund controlled by a lawyer linked to Eduardo Bolsonaro. Flavio Bolsonaro did not directly explain the funds during the debate. All of the above are allegations and responses exchanged in the debate, not findings by any court.

Flavio Bolsonaro also attacked Lula over his annulled convictions; Lula called him a “miliciano” (militiaman) and said he would lose senatorial immunity after the runoff and face advancing investigations; Flavio Bolsonaro answered, “you don't need to fear me.” On the economy, Lula mocked his rival's alignment with Argentine President Milei's austerity program, and the two also clashed over prisoners' voting rights, maternity-leave records and health care. (GSM, based on Brazilian media reports)

来源：GSM·美国（原文链接）

图片来源：参议员 Flávio Bolsonaro（左，黄领带）在联邦参议院出席记者会（资料图）。照片：Agência Senado，CC BY 2.0，经 Wikimedia Commons。Senator Flavio Bolsonaro (left, yellow tie) at a Senate press conference (file photo). Photo: Agencia Senado, CC BY 2.0, via Wikimedia Commons.

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